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Retired Money: The LIRA-to-LIF deadline and more on the RRSP-to-RRIF deadline

My latest MoneySense Retired Money column is the second part of an in-depth-look at the deadline those with RRSPs don’t want to miss once they turn 71. Part 1 appeared in March and can be found here.

The full new column can be found by clicking on the highlighted headline here: RRSP to RRIF, and LIRA to LIF: How it all gets done.

For convenience, here are some highlights:

The first column looked at the necessity of winding up RRSPs by the end of the year you  turn 71: a topic that becomes increasingly compelling as the deadline approaches. This followup column looks at two related topics: the similar deadline of LIRA-to-LIF conversions and the alternative of full or partial annuitization.

LIRAs are Locked-in Retirement Accounts and analogous to RRSPs, albeit with different rules. They usually originate from some employer pension to which you once contributed in a former job. To protect you from yourself you can’t extract funds in your younger years unless you qualify for a few needs-based exceptions. LIFs are Life Income Funds, in effect the annuities LIRAs are obliged to become, also at the end of your 71st year.

The full MoneySense column looks at our personal experience in converting my wife’s LIRA to a LIF, aided by Rona Birenbaum, founder of Caring for Clients. Note that the timing of the conversion is NOT affected by having a younger spouse: that only affects the annual minimum withdrawal calculus.

In my case, having turned 71 early this April, I have until the end of this year (2024) to convert my RRSP to a RRIF. The first required minimum withdrawal must occur in 2025: by the end of 2025 I must have withdrawn the annual minimum.

You can choose RRIF payment frequencies: usually monthly, quarterly, semi annually or once a year: you just have to specify which date. I imagine we’ll go monthly.

Currently, our retirement accounts are held at the discount brokerage unit of a Canadian bank, although we use a second discount broker for some non-registered holdings. While the LIRA will be the basis of an annuity provided by an insurer selected by Caring for Clients, most of our RRSPs will likely become RRIFs, probably by November of this year.  Our hope is that we will keep largely the same investments as are being held now and administer them ourselves, with an eye to maintaining enough cash to meet our monthly withdrawal targets.

Self-directed RRIFs

The new vehicle will bear a familiar name for those with self-directed RRSPs: it’s a Self-directed RRIF. At our bank, it was a simple matter of entering the RRSP and finding the link to convert it to a self-directed RRIF. Once there, you tick boxes on when you want the money, withdrawal frequency and (optionally) choose a tax withholding rate. You can also specify that your withdrawals will be based on your spouse’s age, assuming they are younger.

You can of course also go through a similar process with any financial institution’s full-service brokerage or investment advisor, ideally with at least one face-to-face meeting.  One thing Birenbaum says retirees often miss is specifying tax withholding, since there is no minimum withholding tax period required on the minimum withdrawal. I imagine we will ask to have 30% tax taken out at the time of each withdrawal: which is what we do with existing pension income. It’s on the high side to make up for the fact we also have taxable investment income (mostly dividends) that is NOT taxed at source.

             “I find the majority of retirees like having that withholding tax held at source so they don’t have to deal with installments and owing the CRA.” You can of course have more than 30% withheld.

            With a LIRA, you need to get the account liquid before the money is sent to the insurance company to annuitize. This means keeping tabs on the maturity dates of GICs or other fixed income.

            The paperwork is minimal: we provided a recent LIRA statement, then had an online meeting with one of Birenbaum’s insurance-licensed advisors to go through the application, then sign a transfer form to move the cash to the insurance company for a deferred annuity. The transfer takes a few weeks, with the actual annuity rate determined when the insurance company actually receives the money: registered transfers are recalculated at the point of purchase. There is a form T2033, which is an RRSP-to-RRIF transfer form that moves the money from the bank to the insurance company.

Having a mix of RRIF and annuities

Semi-retired actuary and author Fred Vettese says he has endorsed retirees buying a life annuity ever since the first edition of his book “Retirement Income for Life” back in 2018. “If you buy one, it should be a joint-and-survivor type, meaning it pays out a benefit to the survivor for life.” Continue Reading…

Should I take the Commuted Value of my pension?

By Mark Seed, MyOwnAdvisor

Special to the Financial Independence Hub

Breaking up is hard to do.

Or is it – when it comes to your employer?

Whether that is voluntary leave or involuntary leave, at some point, some people are faced with a very important financial decision: should I take the commuted value of my pension?

This post will hopefully provide some insights, based on a reader question, including my own situation with my pension to share any considerations as food for thought!

Pensions 101

I already have a very detailed post on pensions including the introductory basics on my site so I won’t repeat all details here, but I think it’s very important to understand there are two main types of pensions that we’ll talk about today:

  • Defined Contribution (or DC for short), and
  • Defined Benefit (DB).

The difference?

Think of your DC plan just as the words sound – your contribution is defined but ultimate pension value is not. Meaning, there are no promises. You’ll get what you’ll get based on what you invest in and the returns of what you invest in over time.

Think of your DB plan this way – your (pension) benefit is defined – meaning your pension value at the end of the line is known, usually based on a formula with your company that goes something like this:

Best Average Five Years’ Salary x Benefit Percentage x Years of Plan Membership = Annual Pension Income

So, using real numbers it could be this for some:

$60,000 x 1.5% x 25 = $22,500

Here is a quick pension comparison summary worth noting:

  Defined Contribution (DC) Plan Defined Benefit  (DB) Plan
Philosophy  Assisting employees accumulate retirement savings during their career. Rewarding long-service employees with a lifetime retirement income.
Investment Decision Employees decide how contributions are invested in (usually) a limited number of funds. Professional money managers look after investment decisions based on strict guidelines.
Investment Risk Employee bears the investment risk (since they selected the investments). Employer bears the investment risk.
Income at retirement  Based on employer and employee contributions and investment performance. Based on a formula that includes your annual earnings and years of service.
Valuing Your Pension Simple, as employees have their account balance readily available. Difficult, the commuted value is not readily available for most pension plans (except at termination). Actuaries help calculate.
Other notes My wife has this plan. I have this plan 🙂

What happens when you leave the organization and you have a pension?

When leaving your employer, if you have a DC plan, things are rather straightforward.

If you own a DC plan, the full market value of that plan at the time of your leave can be transferred to a personal Locked-In Retirement Account (LIRA).

I won’t go into too many details on LIRAs since as you guessed it, I also have other blogposts about that subject including how I manage my LIRA. (I used to have a DC plan when I worked and lived in Toronto. I moved my DC plan money into a LIRA when I left my former employer. I’ve had this LIRA ever since.)

With a DB plan, it’s a bit more complex to say the least. Which brings us to our reader case study for today and my thoughts and comments on that.

Reader Case Study (questions and information adapted slightly for the site):

Hi Mark!

I really enjoy your blog! 

I also really like your concept of hourly passive income wage – it’s something I’m now tracking myself!

Thoughts on this for us although I know you can’t offer specific advice but your perspectives would be good given I have read you have a pension as well. Continue Reading…

Retired Money: Everything you wanted to know about LIRAs but were afraid to ask

We’re now well into RRSP season, as the last two days of Hub posts demonstrates. See RRSPs: getting past the contribution inertia (a guest blog by Sage Investors’ Aman Raina), and my latest FP article, reprised on the Hub as Why RRSPs are less critical for Millennials than for the Boomers.

Over at MoneySense, my latest Retired Money column has been published, and it looks at the closely related topic of LIRAs (Locked-in Retirement Accounts, which have been termed “the RRSP’s less flexible cousin.” You can find the full column by clicking on this highlighted headline: Unlocking the Mystery of LIRAs.

In a nutshell, LIRAs are also known in some provinces as Locked-in RRSPs, which is exactly what they are. Unlike regular RRSPs, from which you can withdraw funds (and pay tax) if you need it at any time, LIRAs generally prohibit you from making any withdrawals before 55. Granted, when you’re younger that prohibition — illustrated above as a locked piggy bank — may seem frustrating but the idea is to protect our future retired selves from our current “tempted to spend it all” current selves.

As TriDelta Financial wealth advisor Matthew Ardrey told me, you’re going to see a lot more about LIRAs in the coming years. Whether you’re leaving a classic Defined Benefit pension plan or a more market-tied Defined Contribution pension plan, the job market these days is in such flux that a lot of people are going to have to start learning about what happens when you leave an employer pension plan earlier than you might once have envisaged.

LIRAs will multiply as Boomers reach Findependence

In the case of leaving an employer that provided you with a DB pension, you’ll be getting a lump sum based on the so-called “Commuted Value” of the pension at the time you leave (whether voluntarily or due to corporate layoffs or restructuring). I suggest that those who value the certainty of future DB pension payments plan eventually to annuitize such plans, likely the end of the year you turn 71. Continue Reading…

LIRAs — the RRSP’s less flexible cousin

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Locked-in Retirement Accounts (LIRAs) differ from RRSPs in that you usually can’t “unlock” the funds in them before age 55.

I guess the annual RRSP season is just around the corner, based on some of my most recent writing assignments. Earlier in the week, for MoneySense.ca, I made the case for semi-retirees in their Sixties (like me!) for starting the process of withdrawing money from RRSPs early. Click on the headline Retirement Tax Tips. The Hub summary ran here under the headline The case for Early RRSP withdrawals.

Then at the end of the week, the Financial Post ran my column titled The RRSP’s less flexible cousin: Everything you need to know about the LIRA, which is also available in the Saturday print edition.

As TriDelta Financial wealth advisor Matthew Ardrey told me for the FP article, you’re going to see a lot more about LIRAs in the coming years. Whether you’re leaving a classic Defined Benefit pension plan or a more market-tied Defined Contribution pension plan, the job market these days is in such flux that a lot of people are going to have to start learning about what happens when you leave an employer pension plan earlier than you might once have envisaged.

LIRAs will multiply as Boomers reach Findependence

Continue Reading…