Once you achieve Financial Independence, you may choose to leave salaried employment but with decades of vibrant life ahead, it’s too soon to do nothing. The new stage of life between traditional employment and Full Retirement we call Victory Lap, or Victory Lap Retirement (also the title of a new book to be published in August 2016. You can pre-order now at VictoryLapRetirement.com). You may choose to start a business, go back to school or launch an Encore Act or Legacy Career. Perhaps you become a free agent, consultant, freelance writer or to change careers and re-enter the corporate world or government.
The following is a question-and-answer session conducted via email with advisor John De Goey following his recent talk at the MoneyShow in Toronto, which we reported here. Some of the questions and answers also appeared in my recent MoneySense Retired Money column here.
Jon Chevreau, Findependence Hub: How defensive do you think low-volatility ETFs (i.e., BMO’s, iShares, Harvest) are?
John De Goey: Let’s say the market pulls back by 25%. If you can handle that, then you don’t need a low-volatility ETF. In short, low-volatility products are more defensive than market (cap)-weighted products, but it all depends on how investors react and behave when things go south.
Chevreau Q2.) Most of those are overweight utilities, consumer staples and healthcare stocks. Do you advocate that investors do this themselves with sector ETFs?
De Goey – I generally don’t recommend buying utilities as a stand-alone product/strategy. That said, if you already own cap-weighted products and want to be more conservative, it would likely be more tax effective to simply add utilities rather than sell cap-weighted products in order to buy low-vol products. Same net result, but less tax on the way.
Jon Chevreau, courtesy MoneySense
Chevreau Q3.) If U.S. stocks are so richly priced, do you advocate owning a Value U.S. ETF to compensate, or simply sell down some U.S. or and add more International/Canada? Or other factor funds?
De Goey – I recommend getting out of the U.S. entirely. If you cannot do that then, at the very least, I’m worried that there’s an AI bubble much like what we saw with .com a quarter-century ago.
Chevreau Q4.) What range of asset allocation do you recommend for retirees, especially those who are middle-of-the-road and risk-averse?
De Goey: I think all portfolios should have alternatives. Pension plans like CPP, OMERS and HOOP all have over 33% in alternatives. But for MOR retail investors, I’d opt for something like 20% alternatives, 30% income, and 50% equity.
Chevreau Q5.) Can investors and especially retirees rely on global Asset Allocation ETFs to keep them out of too many over-valued U.S. stocks?
De Goey: I wouldn’t use the word ‘rely.’ Such products will soften the blow, but right now the U.S. represents almost 2/3 of global stock market capitalization. So, if all your stocks were in a single global ETF or mutual fund with a cap-weighted mandate, you’d have massive exposure to a massively over-valued market.
Chevreau Q6.) What about annuitizing a portion of an RRSP/RRIF? Continue Reading…
My latest MoneySense Retired Money column looks at the currently near record high valuations of U.S. stocks and the risks that may pose to those in the Retirement Risk Zone. Full column can be accessed by clicking on the highlighted headline: Why retirement planners are getting defensive.
Retirement Club co-founder Dale Roberts recently posted a typical anxious link to a Globe & Mail column by Dr. Norman Rothery, (CFA) which suggested the current environment of Trump-inspired Tariffs and global Trade Wars, are causing plenty of anxiety for this group.
In the piece posted under Managing Risk in Retirement – and headlined With today’s market, investors close to retirement face precarious times – Rothery said investors on the cusp of retirement are “facing peril from a combination of the unusually lofty U.S. stock market and political uncertainty that’s disrupting world trade.”
U.S. stocks trading at “worrying levels”
The U.S. stock market is “trading at worrying levels,” based on several Value factors, Rothery said: the S&P 500 Index is “trading at a cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio (developed by Robert Shiller) near 39, which is above its peak of 33 in 1929 and it is approaching its top of 44 in late 1999, based on monthly data. Similarly the index’s price-to-sales ratio is approaching its 1999 high. A broader composite measure that includes many different market factors indicates that the U.S. market’s valuation is at record levels. “
Rothery, who also publishes StingyInvestor.com, concluded that it’s “likely that the U.S. stock market will generate unusually poor average real returns over the next decade or so.” Unfortunately, the U.S. stock market now represents about 65% of the world’s market by market capitalization based on its weight in the MSCI All-Country World Index at the end of August. So if the U.S. market flops, “It’ll likely take the rest of the world with it – at least temporarily,” Rothery cautioned.
This could impact recent retirees just beginning to draw down portfolios, due to “sequence of returns risk.” That means that those in the so-called Retirement Risk Zone who suffer early losses could down the road be in danger of outliving their savings. Rothery also reference the famous 4% Rule of financial planner and author William Bengen: the theory that investors in a 55/40/5 portfolio should be able to sustain retirement savings for 30 years provided the annual “SafeMax” withdrawal not exceed 4% a year (actually 4.7%) after adjusting for inflation. Bengen just released a new book titled A Richer Retirement: Supercharging the 4% Rule to Spend More and Enjoy More, which the Retired Money column plans to review next month.
What recent Retirees can do to lower their risk
Retirement Club members anxiously posed questions on the related chat room about whether they should be moving to cash and bonds, gold or other alternatives to U.S. stocks. To this, Dale Roberts – who also runs his own Cutthecrapinvesting blog – warned against getting too defensive but agreed a move to a 70% fixed income/30% stocks allocation might work for some nervous early retirees. Personally, he has trimmed back on his US growth stock exposure and added to defensive ETF sectors like consumer staples, healthcare and utilities. He also mentioned a US equity ETF trading in Canadian dollars: XDU.T
Advisors and their clients suffer from Optimist bias
Advisor John De Goey came to a similar cautious stance in a recent (Sept 12) speech at the MoneyShow in Toronto, archived here on YouTube. Titled Bullshift and Misguided beliefs (see this recent Hub blog) De Goey expanded on his usual themes of advisor bullishness and complacent investors, also articulated in his book Bullshift. Continue Reading…
John De Goey, a financial advisor and portfolio manager with Designed Securities, and long-time commentator on the financial services industry, was a keynote speaker at The Money Show recently held at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
Author of the book ‘Bullshift – How optimism bias threatens your finances’ (Dundurn Press, Toronto, 2023) and host of the popular podcast Make Better Wealth Decisions, De Goey delivered a presentation called Bullshift and Misguided Beliefs.
‘Bullshift,’ the term De Goey has coined, refers to his view about how the financial services industry makes people feel bullish in order to do the industry’s bidding. To make his point, he noted full-page ads appearing in such publications as The Globe and Mail; one of them ran under the headline ‘Be bullish.’
As for misguided beliefs, De Goey says there is ample evidence that Canadian mutual fund registrants believe things which are patently untrue. To illustrate the latter, he referred to Brandolini’s Law.
Alberto Brandolini was an Italian programmer who developed the term in 2013 and his rule goes like this: The amount of energy required to refute BS is an order of magnitude bigger than what was needed to produce it in the first place. Or, put another way, it compares the considerable effort needed to debunk misinformation to the relative ease in creating that misinformation.
American writer and humourist Mark Twain had a take on this at a much earlier time, and De Goey cited that. Said Twain: “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” The point beyond all this, said De Goey, is that people must unlearn what they think they already know. No easy task.
His presentation at The Money Show covered a number of topics including:
The difference between misinformation (an honest mistake) and disinformation (saying something that is deliberately false), and how to unlearn the latter and think for yourself.
How behavioural economics and social psychology affect your investing decisions.
How the industry uses motivated reasoning and tribalism as opposed to critical thinking and evidence.
Why 90% of our financial decisions are based on emotions, not logical thinking.
Why governments and financial advisors like optimism over realism.
De Goey, always a student of history, observed that the market is 30% more expensive now than it was in 1929 just before the stock-market crash that led to the Great Depression. He mentioned the Smoot-Hawley tariffs of 1930 and their catastrophic impact on the U.S. economy, not to mention worldwide economy, and compared this to today’s on-and-off tariffs coming out of the Trump White House. He also noted recent credit downgrades and their effect on the U.S., and, of course, the very real pain of the tariffs which he believes will be much worse in the fourth quarter of 2025. What’s more, De Goey says this will be accompanied by higher inflation.
Bear market looming?
De Goey said the current bull market is “taking its final bow” and the bear market is “waiting in the wings.” In fact, he warned that gains made over the past six years could be entirely wiped out in the next four years if the historical regression to the mean for CAPE occurs. For those who are retired or nearing retirement, this would be devastating news indeed.
One of De Goey’s pet peeves – ‘optimism bias’ – refers to a) people thinking the good times will continue despite blatant warning signs, and b) the very human sentiment that bad things happen but only to other people. Not true, says De Goey. The trouble, he says, is that optimism can sometimes put you in trouble.
Normally, a presentation about money, economics and investing doesn’t get into wisdom imparted by such luminaries as Mark Twain, but De Goey didn’t stop there. He also took a page from Carl Sagan, notably, his 1997 book ‘The Demon-Haunted World. Said Sagan: “If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” Continue Reading…
By Dale Roberts, CutTheCrap Investing, Retirement Club
Special to Financial Independence Hub
The following is a special to Findependence Hub. This post is derived from a newsletter from Retirement Club for Canadians, re-shaped and enhanced for this audience.
Retirees typically face the greatest risk in the first few years of retirement. A severe market correction or bout of inflation can permanently impair retirement plans. In fact, the risk for retirees starts several years before the retirement start date, they’re already in the retirement risk zone.
Norm suggested …
“Planning for retirement is tricky at the best of times because it is beset by uncertainties both known and unknowable. High valuations are one of the known problems but that doesn’t make them easy to deal with.”
While a severe market correction early in retirement is a great risk for retirees who will rely extensively on balanced or growth-oriented portfolios, a longer period of low returns can also create risk. The U.S. stock market is trading at worrying levels based on a variety of value factors.
Norm demonstrated that the S&P 500 Index is trading at a cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio near 39, which is approaching the 44 level that we saw in late 1999 as we approached the dot com crash.
Source: Charlie Billelo / Twitter X
The price-to-sales ratio is approaching its 1999 high.
This ‘everything metric’ says we have the most expensive U.S. market – EVER!
We certainly can’t just step aside and wait for the next recession. Valuation metrics provide no market-timing opportunity. Nothing provides any market timing opportunity. Valuation tends to be a poor near-term market predictor, but it can ‘predict’ the potential returns over the next several years to decade. The data suggest returns for U.S. stocks could be very low in the range of 1-4% annual or even negative in real dollar (inflation-adjusted) returns.
And keep in mind that Canadian stocks (after a very healthy run) are expensive as well. After their big run-up this year, Canadian stocks now trade for nearly 29 times their average inflation-adjusted earnings of the past decade, according to Citigroup, the historical average is 16, TSX returns over the next several years might be challenged as well.
So, there is a risk of a major correction inspired by the lofty levels. And low returns in the first decade can put a strain on the spending plans. Continue Reading…
Retirement income management and Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) can be complex topics for many Americans. This article presents effective strategies to help readers navigate these financial challenges. Drawing on insights from financial experts, the following tips offer practical approaches to optimize retirement income and manage RMDs efficiently.
Purchase Annuity for Guaranteed Retirement Income
Leverage Qualified Charitable Distributions for RMDs
Optimize Asset Location for Tax-Efficient RMDs
Consider Annuities for Steady Retirement Income
Use Trusts to Manage RMDs Strategically
Convert to Roth During Market Downturns
Implement Bucket Approach with Beneficiary Designations
Start Home-Based Business to Offset RMDs
Purchase Annuity for Guaranteed Retirement Income
It is important to always consider broader planning needs, but one strategy that can be useful for generating retirement income and managing required minimum distributions (RMDs) is purchasing an annuity. This annuity would be purchased within an IRA and would create a level stream of guaranteed income for the rest of one’s retirement. This will not only satisfy one’s RMDs, but it can also lower taxes by stretching income across many years. In particular, it could help avoid large, irregular distributions that might push one into higher tax brackets. — Aaron Brask, Retirement planner, Aaron Brask Capital LLC
Leverage Qualified Charitable Distributions for RMDs
The obvious choice is to find a part-time job that aligns with your passion. This way, you can generate income and get paid to enjoy your favorite hobby. For example, if you love golfing, getting a part-time job at a golf course may give you discounts or even free games.
As far as managing RMDs, the amount that you must distribute is not determined by your income. It is based on the value of your Traditional IRA at the end of the year and the IRS Uniform Lifetime Table or Joint Life and Last Survivor Table.
This doesn’t include Roth IRAs. There are no RMDs in these accounts.
The best way to manage the increase in income, which can lower benefits such as Social Security or Medicare Part B (which are based on annual income), is to leverage Qualified Charitable Distributions (QCDs) for those who are philanthropic or give to a 501(c)(3) religious institution such as tithing.
When you reach the age to take RMDs, you can directly give to your favorite charity without incurring the tax implication or the increase in income that comes with RMD distributions. In 2025, you can donate up to US$108,000.
This will eliminate the RMD from being counted in your gross income and, at the same time, qualify for satisfying your annual distribution requirement.
I think this is useful because their favorite cause still receives donations, they satisfy their RMD, and they don’t have to pay the taxes up to that amount.
After 15+ years managing corporate finances and helping businesses with cash flow optimization, I’ve seen how asset location strategy can be a game-changer for Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) management. The approach involves strategically placing different types of investments across taxable, tax-deferred, and tax-free accounts to minimize the tax impact when RMDs hit.
I worked with a client in the software technology space who had accumulated significant wealth through stock options and 401(k) contributions. We repositioned his bond holdings and REITs into his traditional IRA while moving growth stocks to his Roth accounts. When his RMDs started, he was pulling from bond interest and dividend income rather than forcing the sale of appreciating assets.
The key insight from my Financial Planning and Analysis (FP&A) background is treating this like portfolio optimization: you’re maximizing after-tax income rather than pre-tax returns. His RMD tax bill dropped by 18% because we were distributing lower-growth, income-generating assets instead of his high-performing tech stocks.
This works especially well for anyone with diverse investment types across multiple account structures. The planning needs to start at least 5-7 years before RMDs begin, but the tax savings compound significantly over time. — Michael J. Spitz, Principal, SPITZ CPA
Consider Annuities for Steady Retirement Income
Although annuities are often a source of debate and critique, they are still a functional and conservative way to generate income in retirement. If set up early enough, the steady income can often account for Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) across all Individual Retirement Account (IRA) assets since the withdrawal rates are higher than the often quoted 4-4.5%. — Pedro Silva, Financial Advisor, Apex Investment Group, LLC
Use Trusts to Manage RMDs Strategically
After 25 years of helping clients navigate estate planning and witnessing countless families deal with Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) challenges, I’ve discovered the most effective strategy: creating an offshore Asset Protection Trust that feeds into a domestic charitable remainder trust for your RMDs. While this may sound complex, it’s incredibly powerful for the right situation.
Here’s how it works: I had a client with US$2.3 million in retirement accounts who was facing substantial RMDs that would push him into the highest tax brackets. We transferred a portion of his Individual Retirement Account (IRA) into a charitable remainder trust, which allowed him to take his RMDs as annuity payments over 20 years at a much lower effective tax rate. The added benefit? The remainder goes to charity, providing him with immediate tax deductions that offset other income. Continue Reading…
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