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When to take CPP/OAS? My latest MoneySense Retired Money column passes on a fresh perspective on the old topic of whether you should take CPP or OAS early or late. You can find the full piece by clicking on the highlighted text here: Why aggressive stock investors should consider taking CPP early.
One of the main sources cited in the piece is fee-for-service financial planner Ed Rempel, who has contributed guest blogs to the Hub in the past. See for example Should I take CPP early? Some Real Life Examples or Delay CPP and OAS till 70? Some case studies.
When he recently turned 60, Rempel opted himself to take CPP himself because of course he considers himself primarily a “stock” when it comes to investing (using the concept from Moshe Milevsky’s book, Are you a stock or a bond?). He figures he can get good enough returns by investing the early CPP benefits that he will more than make up for the higher payouts CPP makes available for waiting till 65 or 70. Same with OAS, which he figures even balanced investors should take as soon as it’s on offer at age 65.
The corollary of this is that if you consider yourself primarily a fixed-income investor, then you should probably take CPP and perhaps OAS too closer to age 70. Compared to taking CPP at 65, taking it at 70 results in 42% more payments, while OAS is sweeter by 36% by delaying the full five years.
The MoneySense piece also quotes retired financial advisor Warren Baldwin, who chose to take CPP himself by age 66. Like Rempel and most financial advisors, Baldwin has a healthy exposure to equities. But he also cites a couple of other reasons for his decision. Baldwin, (formerly with T. E. Wealth), figures the value of the CPP fund to pay you the pension at age 65 is at least $250,000: more if you factor in its inflation indexing. The latter is an important consideration, especially for those (like Yours Truly), whose Defined Benefit pensions are not indexed to inflation.
Baldwin took his own CPP at 66, a year after his final year of full-time employment income. He did so “mainly for the cash flow and portfolio maintenance.” But Baldwin has other reasons too. “I do not want to leave the CPP too long into the future in case the government changes the terms on it or the rate of income tax might rise … Look at how many changes they have made in the last 20 years.”
If a retiree’s marginal tax bracket jumped from 35% to 45%, Baldwin says deferred CPP would face a heavier tax load, while if benefits are taken earlier they would be taxed at more modest rates. And if retirees also have significant sums accumulated in RRSPs and RRIFs, the extra income might push up their Marginal Tax Bracket.
CPP survivor benefits also need to be considered
Finally, Baldwin considers the “estate value” of CPP. “If two spouses have the maximum CPP and one dies, the survivor will not get much from the ‘survivor-ship’ aspect of CPP … So, if the ‘value’ of the CPP at 65 is in the range of $300,000, then if you die before you collect, there is quite a loss. What if both spouses defer and both die in a car accident before they collect? Then the joint estate could lose out on pre-tax $600,000.”
The MoneySense piece also offers a contrary view from Vancouver-based portfolio manager Adrian Mastracci (of Lycos Asset Management Inc., and a frequent contributor of blogs to the Hub): Mastracci prefers to defer CPP as late as possible in order to keep more options open. And the piece also passes on the perspective of BC-based fee-for-service planner Fred Kirby, who sensibly points out that you should take CPP and OAS whenever you really need the money to live on. He agrees deferring makes sense especially for fixed-income investors but notes that even stock-oriented investors need to consider the possibility of stock losses from investing in the earlier than usual CPP benefits.
“Giving up the certain 42% return of deferring CPP to 70 and which forms a higher base for inflation adjustments, has to be weighed against not waiting the extra five years and possibly incurring even more losses on the stocks purchased with the proceeds of the early CPP benefits.”
