Valuations: The route taken matters

By John De Goey, CFP, CIM

Special to the Financial Independence Hub

The other day I had a lovely exchange with some friends on Twitter about advisor behaviour considering current market valuations.   Every time I write about this, I need to begin with the caveat: this is NOT about forecasting or market timing.  I can’t do it.  You can’t.  No one can do that if reliability is properly considered.  What follows is not about predictions.

It is about what, if anything, can be done – either proactively or reactively – considering high market levels and what that might mean for investors.  To be clear, I will admit that “what that might mean” is my code for “if markets take a really big tumble.”

By now, you’ll know that I have been concerned about the frothy levels of market valuation south of the border for over a year.  The fact is that the Shiller CAPE for the S&P 500 has been above 30 for about four years now.  In early February, it hit 35 for the first time since the bubble at the turn of the millennium.  Based on valuation alone, markets are much higher today than they were at the start of the GFC [Great Financial Crisis], for instance.  I think we should be worried, but most of my colleagues don’t seem to be.

At these levels, returns next decade could be poor

The thing about CAPE is that although it is a poor tool for short term market timing (i.e., it is essentially useless in picking ‘tops’), it has, over the years, proven to be a highly reliable predictor of returns over the next decade or so.  When valuations are this high, the ensuing decade is pretty much always ugly.

Despite this, all I ever seem to hear about is how the good times are rolling and it would be folly to ‘fight the fed’, that ‘the trend is your friend’ and that investors seem to be more confident than ever before.  Like they say in the movies… “it’s pretty quiet out there … a little TOO quiet.”

People like Jeremy Grantham at GMO have taken to suggesting the coming returns for North American stocks and bonds are likely to be negative (!) over the next seven years at least.  Who has THAT in their financial plans?  Perhaps more to the point, what if there’s not a single, monumental point where markets fall off a cliff?  If markets drop by 1% or 2% every year for the better part of the coming decade, how will people react … and who will be genuinely prepared?

A Thought Exercise

Here’s a thought exercise. 

What if markets were to drop by (say) 50% in 2021?  Then, to avoid negative returns over the decade of the 2020s, it would take about 9 years at an 8% CAGR just to get back to where we are now.  I’m not saying anyone can time anything.  I am saying that the risk in current markets is readily apparent.

I’m simply curious about the ‘buy and hold’ crowd insisting that they won’t really consider how they might react if markets started dropping.  Not now (before the drop) and not after (because we all know it’ll happen eventually).  The concern is real.  I think advisors should at least think about the problem.

John De Goey, CIM, CFP, FP Canada™ Fellow, is a Portfolio Manager with Toronto-based Wellington-Altus Private Wealth Inc. This blog originally appeared on the firm’s “Newswire” site on Feb. 17, 2021 and is republished on the Hub with permission.

One thought on “Valuations: The route taken matters

  1. If your portfolio is made up of financially strong high paying dividend stocks (628 stocks pay a 6%+ dividend on the NYSE and the NASDAQ. 100 are financially strong) you live off your dividends and forget about whether shares are up and down. The market does not control dividends. The companies do and they pay their dividends through market downturns. Oddly such companies share prices do grow by several multiples over time despite your ambivalence over share price.

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