Debt & Frugality

As Didi says in the novel (Findependence Day), “There’s no point climbing the Tower of Wealth when you’re still mired in the basement of debt.” If you owe credit-card debt still charging an usurous 20% per annum, forget about building wealth: focus on eliminating that debt. And once done, focus on paying off your mortgage. As Theo says in the novel, “The foundation of financial independence is a paid-for house.”

Merely leaving the nest does NOT constitute true Financial Independence

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Is the little birdie kicked out of the nest truly “Findependent?”

My latest MoneySense blog posted today carries the curious headline that most Millennials expect to achieve “financial independence” by age 27. I put “air quotes” around the phrase financial independence because of course it’s nonsense that merely leaving the nest and putting fewer demands on the Bank of Mum and Dad constitutes true financial independence.

Keep in mind that the research firm cited in the piece seems to use quite a different definition of Financial Independence than the one used at this site or as formally defined at Wikipedia. For research firm yconic, it seems financial independence means merely leaving the nest and landing a job that pays at least the monthly rent: they are merely “financially independent” of mum and dad.

Even with that loose definition, only 56% of older millennials (aged 30 to 33) say they have “achieved financial independence.”

With these savings rates, true Findependence for many millennials is a pipe dream

It’s just as well they’re using such a loose definition because the way the younger generation spends, it’s going to be a long long time before they achieve the kind of financial independence this blog describes.

To sum up the difference, I’d say “our kind” of Financial Independence is being able to stay afloat financially without the traditional source of single income known as “a job” or full-time employment. It’s quite a leap to go from moving out of the parental nest to being able to survive with neither parents nor an employer to keep those regular financial injections flowing into your bank account.

Far from being findependent, almost half the millennials surveyed (46%) admitted “saving money is a struggle” even if they are able to afford to pay the bills. A third say they are living paycheque to paycheque and are barely making ends meet. Fully 43% still rely on their parents for financial assistance, including 37% who look for help paying their student loans off. Does that sound like “our” kind of financial independence?

Non-saving millennials should find a Government job with a DB pension and stay there

I hate to break it to the non-savers but if they don’t start saving soon, they’ll never be able to achieve true financial independence. They had better be prepared to work until age 67 and be able to live on Social Security (in the US) or on the Canada Pension Plan, Old Age Security and possibly the Guaranteed Income Supplement (GIS), or find a good Defined Benefit pension plan somewhere and hang on to the job for three or four decades. (may as well try the Government first: their DB plans are most likely indexed to inflation and ultimately backstopped by taxpayers).

If there’s hope for them, it’s in the finding that most millennials hope to buy a home at some point. I like that because I always say the foundation of financial independence (our kind, that is) is a paid-for home. But even among those who already own a home, 32% got parental help rustling up the down payment. Among those who don’t, a quarter of them (24%) expect their parents to help them with the down payment.

Some millennials do have their act together

I don’t mean to disparage millennials’ aspirations for Financial Independence altogether. Read elsewhere on this site how two millennials aim to be mortgage and debt free in their early 30s. Both of them know all about frugality, saving and deferring instant gratification. Of course they both read the book featured on our sister site!

I also suggest reading a guest blog posted on this site earlier this week on why millennials should be planning NOT for retirement, but for Financial Independence. The true kind, that is!

Some book suggestions

rob_carrickparents12Parents who have yet to kick the little birdies out of the nest might consider giving them a hint about what true Financial Independence entails by investing US$2.99 or C$3.37 in either of these e-books featured elsewhere on this site. Might make a great stocking stuffer! (Just gift the e-book via Amazon and maybe insert in the stocking a card telling them to check their Kindle).

I also suggest that millennials or their parents get a copy of Rob Carrick’s book, How Not to Move Back In With Your Parents.

As we speak, my own daughter is reading it.

Extreme Early Retirement? I call it Extreme Early Findependence!

Savings Thermometer Measuring Money Nestegg IncreaseBy Jonathan Chevreau

MoneySense.ca today is running my column on Extreme Early Retirement from the November issue. It looks at the phenomenon championed by super-frugal savers like Mr. Money Moustache and Jacob Lund Fisker of so-called Extreme Early Retirement.

The idea is to be self-sufficient, do without, live in a small home, eliminate frivolous purchases like cars or furniture and save like crazy for five or ten years: and we’re not talking the typical savings rates of 10 or 15% of a paycheque: more like 50% or more.

Frugality to a Fault?

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Pretty Little Poor Girl’s tips for shopping on Black Friday


Just in time for Black Friday, we’re pleased to present this timely blog from Danielle Kubes, the blogger behind the Pretty Little Poor Girl blog. You can also find the piece at her site here. Love that slogan: “Because financial literacy is hot.” With Danielle’s permission we’re running it below at the Hub too, and  we hope to run more pieces in the future.

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Danielle Kubes, Pretty Little Poor Girl

By Danielle Kubes

Special to the Financial Independence Hub

I only really shop three times a year:

▪ August sales

▪ January sales

▪ Black Friday

It’s a waste of money to buy anything any other time a year. I’m allergic to paying full retail-price for anything so I save up all my money to buy clothes and shoes on sale. And almost everything WILL go on sale eventually.

And by sale, I mean REAL sales. Not those “fake sales,” which are popular with American stores like Bath and Body Works, Ann Taylor and Express. Literally every time I walk into their stores there is “30%” off sweaters, Buy 2 body lotions get 2 free etc.,

If there is ALWAYS a sale, that sale price is just the TRUE price.

Which I why I wait until there are legit sales, like when they actually want to move merchandise. Those three time periods are the only time that really happens.

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Often Black Friday is NOT the cheapest time to buy things, but it can be if you need something before January, like Christmas gifts, or there is something you need/desperately want that you legitimately feel might be gone by January sales

▪ It’s important to figure out whether further discounts will be applied on Boxing Day, or later in January. This comes with a few years experience shopping sales. I suggest writing down the discounts available this year, so you know what to expect more for next year. They are usually quite similar year-to-year

▪ A week before Black Friday there are usually sales. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS.

▪ For example, this week everything at Old Navy is 30% off. But it will be 50% off on Black Friday.

▪ Ask the salespeople what sorts of sales they will be having Black Friday. Some stores in Canada, especially the Canadians one don’t participate. For these sales you’ll have to wait until after boxing day. But American stores do Black Friday amazingly

▪ In Toronto, I’ve noticed recent American imports Express, Ann Taylor/Loft and JCrew can have amazing Black Friday sales. Don’t bother with Artizia. The best time to shop at Aritzia is in late August and late January. GOLDEN TIP

Danielle Kubes is a freelance journalist in Toronto. She believes in a balanced attitude toward financial independence. What would her weekends be without brunch? Sad and lonely. But you can also find her hand-washing clothes to save a few bucks at the laundromat.

When Life Bites You in the Wallet

walletbiteWhen Life Bites You in the Wallet, published earlier this year, is an excellent personal finance primer on banking, credit, debt and insolvency, written by a former banker and a bankruptcy trustee.

The bankruptcy trustee, based in British Columbia, is  Blair Mantin. The other coauthor is Lee Anne Davies, who I got to know a bit when she worked in Toronto at the senior levels of a major Canadian bank. Lee Anne now lives in British Columbia.

However, in her new career as a health, aging and financial guru, Lee Anne pulls no punches about the wily ways of the industry that once employed her. Continue Reading…

How savers can cope with minuscule interest rates

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By Joe Atikian

Special to the Financial Independence Hub

Savers almost everywhere have nearly been beaten into submission by seemingly perpetual Zero Interest Rate Policies (ZIRP) imposed by central banks around the world.

The simple connection is that when interest rates are low, there is no incentive to save money. The flip side is that low interest rates make borrowing cheap, so people raise their debt load. So, is it still worthwhile to save when interest rates are low?

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